Our family is visiting Colca Canyon in September. I wonder if anyone can give me some advice on ideal AM departure times from Arequipa and Chivay to avoid crowds. We have a private van/driver and a guide for the trip so we can decide the morning departure times each day. We overnight in Arequipa, than leave early next day to see the Canyon on the way to Chivay. Overnight in Chivay than continue on to Cruz del Condor next morning and on to Puno in the afternoon. The guide is proposing to leave Arequipa at 8:30 AM - arrival in Chivay mid day and than next day leave Chivay at 7 AM to go to Cruz del Condor. Would this put us on the path with thousands of other tourists? Should we leave earlier/later?